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Re: Take APT 0.6 discussion public!

also sprach Anthony Towns <aj@azure.humbug.org.au> [2005.02.16.1541 +0100]:
> Yes. If we weren't we might wake up one day and mistakenly think
> it might be possible to have discussions on Debian lists that
> didn't involve gratuitous insults.

I described the situation as perceived by numerous (if not most)
developers. If it is an insult to you, maybe you are doing something

Let's ignore the dozens of packages waiting in NEW for months
*without* *an* *explanation* for a moment, as well as the numerous
emails and bugs that are simply being ignored:
many issues under your responsibility have been on the table various
times over the last months (years?) and yet the only ones to never
say anything are the mysterious ftpmasters. I bet most developers
have no reason to believe you guys are even real.

If you are too busy with sarge to tend to NEW packages, package
removals, the various files controlling the archive or your inbox,
tell us! Everyone understands that sarge has priority over new

If you are not busy with sarge, tell us what you are doing for
Debian that makes you have no time for the above tasks!

If you do not have enough time for Debian, tell us so that we can
train people to assist!

We rank our users as top priority, and we promise not to hide
problems. Developers are users, and you are treating them like
secondary members of the project, prioritising your own (hidden)
agenda. And silence in combination with stagnation smells an aweful
lot like "hiding problems" to me. If you are now going to say that
"hiding problems" refers to our public BTS, don't; to many of us, it
means a whole lot more.

None of this is personal. I am bitching at a role. The stand is now
yours for the rebuttal. Or defense. Or whatever. You do not have the
right to remain silent.

Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list!
 .''`.     martin f. krafft <madduck@debian.org>
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