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Re: Ftpmasters' status

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On 17-02-2005 02:43, Anthony Towns wrote:
> Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
>> On 17-02-2005 00:25, Anthony Towns wrote:
>>> Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
>>>> I am not your boss, but I am (too) interested in understanding why the
>>>> tasks of the ftpmaster role seems to be moving slow.
>>> Honestly, I'd love to talk about these sorts of things more publically;
>>> but I'm not willing to do that in an environment that's actively
>>> hostile.
>> I am happy to hear that.
>> Here is a fresh non-APT non-hostile thread. Please respond...
> Dude, if a new thread was enough to avoid folks deciding that it'd be
> fun to randomly throw in insults and other distractions, I'd've started
> my own thread months or years ago -- I do actually know how to do that,
> as it happens. But it's not.

Sorry for misunderstanding your needs.

>> Or alternatively, please clarify what would be a comfortable environment
>> for you for such public talk.
> One where the majority of posts were productive and valuable
> contributions, rather than attacks and demands would be a good start. Of
> course, we're so far from that than even asking for an apology is
> treated as an opportunity to make more demands.

I am sad to hear this.

Do I understand you correctly that we cannot expect any public info from
you on the matters of your tasks as ftpmaster until a noise-free
mailinglist can somehow be created/maintained?

I do not mean to put words in your mouth. If you describe only an ideal
situation for you, but can live with less, I apologize for putting the
question so awkwardly before: I am really eager to hear from you about
matters of your ftpmaster tasks. What would be _sufficient_ for you to
participate in talking about it?

> I'm really not sure why anyone thinks tacking requests onto paranoid
> accusations of people being in unaccountable supersecretive cabals that
> don't share the Debian spirit is a good idea. Answering those questions
> just encourages people to start new obnoxious threads later to try to
> get a response, which means the only sensible response is to either
> ignore the questions, or actively prioritise issues that aren't
> connected to offensive threads. Seriously, why do you think anyone would
> want to encourage you to call them names?

I honestly do not have the answer to that question.

Kind regards,

 - Jonas

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