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Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

On Thu, Sep 28, 2006 at 09:25:44AM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-09-27 at 21:13 +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 11:15:43AM +0000, Jörg Sommer wrote:
> > > 
> > > >    i.e. (starting at AltGR-7) {[]}\ while I get (starting at AltGr-5)
> > > >    []|{}}\. This behaviour should be switchable. Also I still wonder
> > > >    why "}" is on AltGr-9 *and* AltGr-0.
> > > >
> > > > 3. AltGr-Q still produces "«" and not "@"
> > > 
> > > It's a Apple keyboard. Don't use it, if you don't like it.
> > 
> > With logics like this I could say: This is Linux. Go get OSX if you
> > want an Apple keyboard.
> You're missing the point. The macintosh layouts should match what's
> physically engraved on the keys of an Apple keyboard as much as
> possible. Same for the pc layouts vs. PC keyboards. You should
> appreciate the possibility of choosing between these instead of trying
> to impose one onto the other.

Nobody denies this fact, what is engraved on the key is what has
to be displayed.  But most keys have only 1 or 2 symbols engraved
on it, so you have to choose 3rd and 4th levels.
Some people want to have the exact same layout as Mac OS X.  This
is indeed an option, but not necessarily a rule.  For instance,
the most widely used French PC layout has been designed from
scratch, it has not been copied from Windows.

Please note also that Ben Müller submitted upstream a slightly
different layout, which is supposed to be closer to Mac OS X:
This is the "mac" variant in /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/de.
So you have this variant, the one from symbols/macintosh_vndr/de,
and Wolfgang Pfeiffer proposed other changes.  I will not
include these changes for now, it would be better if German
people discuss and reach a consensus about one or two variants.


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