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Re: removing ftp:// from mirrors lists

On Tue, 19 Apr 2016, David Precious wrote:

On Tue, 19 Apr 2016 16:20:28 +0200 (CEST)
Mattias Wadenstein <maswan@acc.umu.se> wrote:
Because the ftp.ccTLD.debian.org names will need to stay around for
at least 3-5 years from now, even if we can come to a conclusion to
rename things ASAP this afternoon.

Sure, but continuing to use ftp.* as the primary name for a server that
doesn't offer FTP any more just seems plain silly.  Changing them to,
say, mirror.ccTLD.debian.org, and leaving ftp.ccTLD.debian.org as a
CNAME to mirror.ccTLD.debian.org would be easy and sensible.

This is already the case today, there is no requirement for a ftp.ccTLD.debian.org to offer anything but /debian/ over HTTP, and DSA will happily repoint it to any service that provides that well for the region.

The fact of it is that for many mirrors (and for the Debian mirror
list checker), FTP is a deprecated legacy protocol that noone cares
enough to fix anything for anymore, and any users lead into using it
are users lead towards a worse user experience.

... and with that you jump to "I (and probably some other mirror admins)
don't want to support FTP, so all mention of it and support for it
should be withdrawn right now" which:

(a) concerns me, as people do still use FTP, and I'm sure there's
plenty of mirror operators out there who will continue to provide FTP
access, whichever way the discussion goes (I will); the mirror list
should, IMO, indicate which mirrors are providing FTP service and which

Of course they are using it, we're advertising it to be used! This is what should stop, if we have any concern for our users.

/Mattias Wadenstein

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