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Re: AGPL (was Re: Please try expo.debian.net)

Il giorno mer, 27/07/2011 alle 22.06 +0200, Adam Borowski ha scritto:
> On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 12:03:03PM -0400, Andrew Starr-Bochicchio wrote:
> > Launchpad is most certainly free software (though it would have to be
> > re-branded, the icons/images are not free). [0]:
> > 
> > "Canonical Ltd ("Canonical") distributes the Launchpad source code
> > under the GNU Affero General Public License, version 3 (AGPLv3)."
> I can't see how someone can claim that AGPL is a free software license.
> "Freedom 0: The freedom to run the program for any purpose."

(Maybe I'm really missing something, but) doesn't [0] have anything to
do with this discussion?! I mean: is this still an open debate or your
own opinion != Debian's official position?

[0]: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?msg=17;bug=495721



> So you can run Launchpad only as a web site.  You can't take a piece of its
> code and use it somewhere else, since it would then have no way to advertise
> itself and allow the download.
> An example: many, many years ago I took several code paths for pty pair
> creation on different platforms from GNU screen, and have used that code in
> several unrelated projects since, some of these don't even have an user
> interface at all.  AGPL would made such an use impossible.
> You can't even write a scripting interface for an AGPL work without passing
> advertising and downloads through!
> Another case: I use and even sometimes fix bugs in an AGPLed program written
> by Marc Thoben, whom I otherwise really respect.  Yet neither of the two
> principal ways to interface with that program: an IRC bot and now also a
> webpage, provide such a download.  Both are ran by the very person that
> imposed AGPL onto that program.  So you have a case of the very creator of
> the program who would be disallowed its use were he bound by his own
> copyright.
> -- 
> 1KB		// Yo momma uses IPv4!

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