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Re: Sound Not working on T61



On Sat, 2008-01-26 at 00:02 +0100, Cyril Jaquier wrote:
> Hi Franklin,
> 
> > I think we agree.
> > 
> 
> I think so too ;) And I completely agree with your argumentation.
> However, I have just a few questions/remarks.
> 
> > Some sample bugs that may occur at anytime in Testing, which could be very
> > anoying  (Despite the very good job of the Debian-Developper that maintain
> > the packages. reminder: they don't always actually developp the program
> > themselves):
> > - New bug in [your bootloader] prevent my computer from booting.
> > - New bug in [xorg] prevent the graphical interface from working.
> > - New kernel get installed, but you can't re-compile your
> > [wifi|modem|video|network] driver module.
> > 
> 
> If a new package breaks my system, how can I reinstall the previous one?
> Correct me if I'm wrong but I guess this is not possible. Previous
> version seems to be removed from repositories as soon as a new release
> is uploaded.
Quite right.
If one runs unstable, he can use Testing, Backports or Stable packages.
Another option is http://snapshot.debian.net
But it's not very practical.

Also packages aren't designed to allow downgrade (in preinst and
postinst scripts). 90% of the packages probably downgrade nicely, but
the 10 last percent might be a night-mare (incompatible configuration
files, etc).

> > Again, don't get me wrong. The most important is that they _use_ Debian
> > (any version).
> > 
> 
> New Linux users probably install Ubuntu, Fedora or OpenSuse. I doubt
> they are a lot of newbies using Debian, at least on desktop/laptop. My
> first Linux experience (years ago) was Debian. I found it a way to
> complicated so I just burnt a RedHat CD.
Debian-Installer team have made a really good job. Sarge was... a bit
more complicated to install ;)

> It was a lot easier to
> install/use. Then I switched to Fedora. I used Gentoo during many years
> (and I'm still using it on servers) and since a few months, I'm back to
> the roots :D
> 
> > Let's go keep helping (new) users.
> > 
> 
> And fill bug reports too :D
Yes !
> Regards,
> 
> Cyril

Franklin


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