Re: Ubuntu logout dialog patch in Debian [Discuss]
Am Dienstag, den 26.06.2007, 11:35 +0200 schrieb Loïc Minier:
> On Tue, Jun 26, 2007, Sebastian Heinlein wrote:
> > > For the verbosity as Loic mentioned, can adding icons to the
> > > buttons help?
> >
> > Icons would make the dialog even wider. Furthermore there are no GNOME
> > or Tango suspend or hibernate icons. The ones from g-p-m won't be very
> > helpful at this size (a small disk and a small memory stick with a
> > could).
>
> I think icons would help. Sure, it will take more space -- perhaps not
> only width -- but at least I wont be forced to read the text of all
> buttons to decide what I want, plus it will make clicking on the
> buttons easier. You have a point that a prerequisite for such a change
> is to have decent icons, but it should only delay the implementation,
> not influence the long term goal.
I think that it is quite hard to find good metaphors for suspend, hibernate
and restart at all. The terms are really very technical.
The GNOME dialogs only requires you to scan the buttons horizontally.
THe Ubuntu dialog is harder to scan since it also uses the vertical
orientation and has got a separated cancel button.
Furthermore the GNOME dialog has the count down of death feature. So if
you just want to turn off your machine you don't need to hit the
shutdown button.
Do you make use of the hibernate feature very often? Since the suspend
button is on the most left position it is quite an easy target, but this
is not true for the hibernate button.
> (FWIW, I don't intend to use the poweroff dialog in the short term
> anyway since the backlight isn't properly turned on with the underlying
> suspend call; I'll continue calling my own little s2ram wrapper
> manually...)
Oh, take a look at pm-utils - it makes use of uswsusp and provides good
scripts that can be easily extended. They work really great here on my
ThinkPad in combination with hal.
Cheers,
Sebastian
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