Re: Debian-edu/Skolelinux and Edubuntu cooperation
Donovan Baarda wrote:
> On Fri, May 13, 2005 at 12:57:24PM +0100, Gavin McCullagh wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 13 May 2005, Markus Gamenius wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>Would it be at all possible for a semi-official debian-edu/skolelinux
>>>>backports archive to exist for this?
>>
>>>This approach would not help us keeping up with hardware, just some
>>>programs.
>>
>>I presume that the major issue with hardware is the installer. An extra
>>APT source won't really help that. Hardware problems with initial
>>installation would likely be with new disk controllers, network cards and
>>possibly video cards. For a novice, if the cd doesn't have support they
>>might as well forget it. They really need a cd that has this stuff.
>
>
> I thought that the new Debian Installer is modular, allowing for
> things like additional-drivers-on-a-floppy (Hmm, any done win2K
> install on a SATA drive recently... kinda hurts when the new PC
> doesn't have a floppy). Even if this is a PITA, the modular nature
> _should_ mean creating new install CD's with additional drivers is
> relatively painless.
It is, but you have to know how to do it :)
Everythig is easy when you know how.
>>A second aspect of hardware is that of thin/half-thick clients. An APT
>>source with a newer version of LTSP or Lessdisks, or a new kernel for them
>>etc might be a help. The nature of thin clients is often that they aren't
>>usually that new so I suspect this is not so important (although the X
>>Server in LTSP 3 is very old now).
>
>
> In my experience, thin clients are hugely varied... you use whatever
> you can lay your hands on; old, new, middling, with no two the same.
> This makes hardware support doubly hard...
As long as they work - use them, if they start to make trouble dump them.
>>My intention in saying this was not so much to propose a solution to the
>>hardware problem as to show that there are one or two things other than
>>hardware which cause issues when out of date and to suggest a possible
>>solution to those.
>
>
> I noticed the deathly silence to my "upgrades are inevitable; face it"
> post... but the reality is, any "stable release" is going to need
> regular updates, or will rapidly become so stale it is unusable. The
> staler it is, the harder the next "upgrade" is too. This is the
> problem, for hardware and software.
And your point is ?
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