Re: Debian-edu sarge
Finn-Arne Johansen wrote:
Just to inform you all about status on sarge.
[klip]
I guess we will have to loose the ltsp3 images from the official
education-tasks, since they are not going into sarge. When it comes to
thin clients and booting them we have some choices to make.
Someone has to do some work to get a working thin-client solution.
ltsp3 - the one that we uses in venus. Old, should be left behind as
soon as we have another solution
ltsp4 - no packages availible, but it works to install from the
scripts from www.ltsp.org
diskless - Old diskless setup from Potato. Seems like it doesn't work
to well on sarge, or maybe just the documentation is
lacking ? Version 0.3.18.0.4 accepted into testing
2004-03-16
There's recent activity to adopt the package. Read the corresponding
bugreport: http://bugs.debian.org/107808
lessdisks - Looks like a newer initiative, with Jonas Smedgaard as debian
maintainer. This also lacks the easyness of ltsp.org
setup. Version 0.4.6.99.cvs20040424-2 accepted into
Testing 2004-05-25
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If Jonas could come up with an easy way of how to use diskless, things
would maybe be easier ?
You mean lessdisks, right? (others have gotten confused as well ;-) )
I have currently a load of work (I need to get good understanding of
OpenAFS and Kerberos5 to fix a school network before school starts in
august), but the upstream author of lessdisks, Vagrant, claims most
current problems of the current package is fixed in a newer release
waiting for me.
Here's some differences between ltsp3 and lessdisks (from the top of my
head):
* Lessdisks supports both SSH-tunneled XDMCP traffic (the
Debian-packages sdm and sdm-terminal) and the simpler insecure traffic
used by ltsp3 (which requires less CPU on both client and server).
* Lessdisks ties terminal configuration to MAC address instead of IP
number.
* Lessdisks by default (when properly implemented - Vagrant claims it
works now) uses plain vanilla default Debian Linux kernels, so security
updates is swift! (hey, I added that part! ;-))
I hope to soon be able to package the newer release (it is not quite as
simple as most packaging: Vagrant tries to make it work for both stable
and unstable, while my goal is to make it as lean and mean as possible
on unstable). In the close future is also Vagrant working on
compatibility for ltsp-like configuration in order to make it easier to
switch, and I have been granted write access to upstream CVS to get
directly involved...
What is currently seen as easier with ltsp3 than lessdisks? Please feed
the Debian Bug Tracking System with your wishes and bugreports. We do
look at them even though right now development seems stalled from the
outside.
Anybody knows details of security implementation of ltsp4?
- Jonas
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