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Re: how to remove libsystemd0 from a live-running debian desktop system



2015-02-16 16:26 GMT+01:00 Alastair McKinstry <alastair.mckinstry@sceal.ie>:
> [...]
> An an example, i've been a long-term linux developer, DD; i've developed
> and promoted Linux not just on the desktop but both in embedded systems
> and in HPC systems. In all these I've been comfortable that I've been
> able to adapt Linux, reconfigure, do what was needed to get it going on
> any size of device, and get my changes either accepted upstream,
> maintain them locally in my organisation or both. With systemd I don't
> think I could do that, and thats very disempowering.

Why do you think you can't do that anymore? Systemd is used on
embedded devices, reaching from the Jolla smartphone to things like
the Vocore or Raspberry Pi.
Getting changes accepted upstream is also not a hard thing, systemd is
not different from any other upstream we have. Suure, there will be
patches which are not in-scope, some will receive criticism, need to
be adapted and rewritten, but that happens basically everywhere.
For projects using systemd features, adapting them to do what you want
also shouldn't be a problem, and the systemd unit files (from the
initsystem part of it) can easily be changed and overridden to serve
custom needs.
So, do you have concrete bad experience? If so, working on that and
fixing the associated bugs would be a useful thing to do.

> [...]

Cheers,
    Matthias

P.S: Does this really have to be crossposted to -user and -devel?


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