Re: how to remove libsystemd0 from a live-running debian desktop system
On 2015-02-16 16:26, Alastair McKinstry wrote:
> On 16/02/2015 14:41, Christian Kastner wrote:
>> I'll hazard another guess, namely that the great vast majority of users
>> simply do not care. I'd be surprised if most users even know what an
>> init system does, much less what the differences between sysvinit /
>> systemd / upstart / etc are. [*]
> But the developers _do_ care, and that matters.
Yes, some -- probably even many! -- developers do care. And many of them
actively contribute to a solution, be it with constructive criticism, or
sharing insights, or providing patches. And I truly, deeply value that.
However, the certain group of people my complaint was addressed to seem
to contribute only drama and discord.
> See John Goertzens insightful blog post:
>
> http://changelog.complete.org/archives/9304-reactions-to-has-modern-linux-lost-its-way-and-the-value-of-simplicity
>
> An an example, i've been a long-term linux developer, DD; i've developed
> and promoted Linux not just on the desktop but both in embedded systems
> and in HPC systems. In all these I've been comfortable that I've been
> able to adapt Linux, reconfigure, do what was needed to get it going on
> any size of device, and get my changes either accepted upstream,
> maintain them locally in my organisation or both. With systemd I don't
> think I could do that, and thats very disempowering.
>
> Do I really need to point out that if we lose developers, then the users
> lose too?
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