Re: DAK Commands for Bikesheds
On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Geert Stappers <stappers@stappers.nl> wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 12:17:22PM +0200, Mathias Behrle wrote:
>> * Neil Williams: " Re: DAK Commands for Bikesheds" (Thu, 17 Sep 2015 17:44:11 +0100):
>> > On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 17:20:21 +0100 Dominic Hargreaves wrote:
>> >
>> > There is a strong British tradition, exported to a range of other
>> > countries, of engineers toiling away in garden sheds, inventing stuff -
>> > be it cars, engines, radios, metalwork, carpentry ... anything someone
>> > can produce which requires only heating, lighting, power and time. It's
>> > quite natural that toiling away in your own little packaging world for
>> > Debian would happen in a software shed - and in software, there's only
>> > really one kind of shed, the bikeshed.
>>
>> Thanks, that explains the term quite well for people like me not being familiar
>> at all with the meaning. I understand now, that the term sounds funny for people
>> knowing that tradition, for me it was quite incomprehensible and not intuitive.
>> Searching on the web revealed indeed 'bike sheds' as in 'Outdoor Portable
>> Garage Shed'. I think other people could be in the same position and just not
>> get the idea what the feature inside Debian shall mean.
>>
>> I think that a more general and descriptive name like the proposed
>> "(Special|Developer|Custom) Package (Repository|Archive)" would be more helpful
>> for quite a number of users, including me.
>
>
> Recovering what was deleted from this thread:
>
> } > > >From the context I take it to be a new name for "PPA"s - in which
> } > > >case thank you for working on this feature!
> } >
> } > ... and that's part of the reason to call them bikesheds - these aren't
> } > a new name for PPAs or a version of PPAs for Debian. These are official
> } > hacking space within the Debian project for packages which - for any
> } > number of reasons - just aren't ready to leave the shed yet (or should
> } > be put back into the shed to get out of the hair of those trying to
> } > *actually do a release*).
> } >
> } > It looks like a shed, it sounds like a shed, it's a shed.
> } >
> } > There is no time or appetite for another round of bikeshedding and we
> } > don't need more TLAs, please allow dak to get me a bikeshed soon!
> } > please!
> }
>
>
> The thing we will learn, we have to learn, is that bikeshed, the noun,
> nothing has to do with bikeshedding, the verb.
For those not familiar with the verb:
http://bikeshed.com/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkinson%27s_Law_of_Triviality
Personally I feel that the verb is intimately connected with the noun
and love the parallels with what both of these will and do refer to in
Debian.
--
bye,
pabs
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