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Re: DAK Commands for Bikesheds

On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 17:20:21 +0100
Dominic Hargreaves <dom@earth.li> wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 04:39:43PM +0100, Wookey wrote:
> > +++ Raphael Hertzog [2015-09-17 14:41 +0200]:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > On Thu, 17 Sep 2015, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> > > > Please check if I forgot something obvious or if there is some
> > > > big error in it. Patches/git trees to merge from/... are
> > > > welcome.
> > > 
> > > Please don't call this feature "Bikesheds" and don't hardcode
> > > this naming in the suggested API. It was funny during one Debconf
> > > talk... but it won't be funny in the long term.
> > 
> > It wasn't supposed to be a joke. Bikeshed is an appropriate name, in
> > the unix tradition of mildly amusing/punny names.
> On the other hand, neither this thread nor any other d-d thread
> that I can find explains what the feature is... so to those who
> weren't aware of the name already, it doesn't mean anything :)

There is a strong British tradition, exported to a range of other
countries, of engineers toiling away in garden sheds, inventing stuff -
be it cars, engines, radios, metalwork, carpentry ... anything someone
can produce which requires only heating, lighting, power and time. It's
quite natural that toiling away in your own little packaging world for
Debian would happen in a software shed - and in software, there's only
really one kind of shed, the bikeshed. 

> >From the context I take it to be a new name for "PPA"s - in which
> >case
> thank you for working on this feature!

... and that's part of the reason to call them bikesheds - these aren't
a new name for PPAs or a version of PPAs for Debian. These are official
hacking space within the Debian project for packages which - for any
number of reasons - just aren't ready to leave the shed yet (or should
be put back into the shed to get out of the hair of those trying to
*actually do a release*).

It looks like a shed, it sounds like a shed, it's a shed.

There is no time or appetite for another round of bikeshedding and we
don't need more TLAs, please allow dak to get me a bikeshed soon!


Neil Williams

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