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Re: DAK Commands for Bikesheds

On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 12:17:22PM +0200, Mathias Behrle wrote:
> * Neil Williams: " Re: DAK Commands for Bikesheds" (Thu, 17 Sep 2015 17:44:11 +0100):
> > On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 17:20:21 +0100 Dominic Hargreaves wrote:
> > 
> > There is a strong British tradition, exported to a range of other
> > countries, of engineers toiling away in garden sheds, inventing stuff -
> > be it cars, engines, radios, metalwork, carpentry ... anything someone
> > can produce which requires only heating, lighting, power and time. It's
> > quite natural that toiling away in your own little packaging world for
> > Debian would happen in a software shed - and in software, there's only
> > really one kind of shed, the bikeshed. 
> Thanks, that explains the term quite well for people like me not being familiar
> at all with the meaning. I understand now, that the term sounds funny for people
> knowing that tradition, for me it was quite incomprehensible and not intuitive.
> Searching on the web revealed indeed 'bike sheds' as in 'Outdoor Portable
> Garage Shed'. I think other people could be in the same position and just not
> get the idea what the feature inside Debian shall mean.
> I think that a more general and descriptive name like the proposed 
> "(Special|Developer|Custom) Package (Repository|Archive)" would be more helpful
> for quite a number of users, including me.

Recovering what was deleted from this thread:

} > > >From the context I take it to be a new name for "PPA"s - in which
} > > >case thank you for working on this feature!
} > 
} > ... and that's part of the reason to call them bikesheds - these aren't
} > a new name for PPAs or a version of PPAs for Debian. These are official
} > hacking space within the Debian project for packages which - for any
} > number of reasons - just aren't ready to leave the shed yet (or should
} > be put back into the shed to get out of the hair of those trying to
} > *actually do a release*).
} > 
} > It looks like a shed, it sounds like a shed, it's a shed.
} > 
} > There is no time or appetite for another round of bikeshedding and we
} > don't need more TLAs, please allow dak to get me a bikeshed soon!
} > please!

The thing we will learn, we have to learn, is that bikeshed, the noun,
nothing has to do with bikeshedding, the verb.

Geert Stappers
Leven en laten leven

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