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Re: systemd, again (Re: Cinnamon environment now available in testing)



On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 5:20 AM, Matthias Urlichs <matthias@urlichs.de> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Noel Torres:
>> * superior: plain no
>>
> Your opinion. Mine is "hell yes". Both opinions are completely worthless,
> absent any reasoning.
> Could we please stop the "systemd is good" vs. "systemd is bad" bashing?
>
> In any case, IMHO a system that's been installed with wheezy, and
> then upgraded to jessie, should be identical to a system installed with
> jessie in the first place.

Regardless of whether I agree or not, I do not think a good way to do
this is through random dependencies of DE's or network manager.

>
> Thus, unless the user explicitly tells the apt{-get,itude} subsystem not
> to switch to systemd (by whatever means, the details of which I personally
> am not at all interested in), a dist-upgrade should do so.

Currently, this is impossible, since systemd-shim DNE on Wheezy.

Best wishes,
--
Cameron Norman


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