Re: sysvinit is still here, and here to stay for jessie (was Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now)
> I, for one, would be highly displeased if a routine dist-upgrade to
> testing required me to reboot to avoid having things break.
We're talking about an upgrade from one release to the other here,
with many intrusive changes (not just systemd).
If you do that upgrade not in one fell swoop but in many baby steps,
at least one of these will be the one that ends up killing off a feature or
> I would argue that in order for Jessie to be "the most awesome stable
> release [...] ever prepared", it must work without systemd well enough
> to let everything that worked before the upgrade to Jessie continue to
> work equally well until the user decides to reboot - whether that's
> immediately, or six months down the line. Previous releases could
> successfully be used that way, after all; I've done it with at least one
> of them.
It'd be awesome if that is / will be possible, but I for one wouldn't be
annoyed if it isn't, for one reason or another.
-- Matthias Urlichs