Re: systemd and Linux are *fundamentally incompatible* -> and I can prove it
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On 03/30/2014 01:17 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> On 03/30/2014 02:51 AM, Jan Gloser wrote:
>
>> Otherwise if you just personally disagree with the design of
>> systemd and can't describe such a scenario, why not just migrate to
>> Gentoo or BSD?
>
> This has been said a 100 times...
>
> There's no need to migrate away. systemd is not (and will not be)
> mandatory in Debian in the foreseeable future. Your can continue to
> use sysv-rc (or OpenRC, file-rc, Upstart...) if you like. The TC
> decision is *only* about the *default* init system.
In past discussions, one of the apparently largest things I've seen
cited as a benefit of switching to systemd has been that it's much more
cost-effective in terms of developer/maintainer time and effort to
maintain systemd unit files than to maintain traditional init scripts.
If it's been decided to continue to require package maintainers to
provide traditional init scripts as well as systemd unit files - e.g.
for Debian's non-Linux ports - then that benefit would be lost.
If it hasn't, then I think it's entirely foreseeable that package
maintainers will at some point stop providing traditional init scripts.
At that point, unless a means of producing init scripts from unit files
(which, last I heard, had been judged impossible) has been found, the
amount of work required to continue to run sysvinit would be far more
than the terminology of "changing the default" implies.
To be doing more than changing the default here is not necessarily a bad
thing, but we shouldn't be pretending that changing the default is all
that's happening, unless choosing something other than the default
really is - and, barring another project-wide decision, is expected to
indefinitely continue to be - as simple as installing one set of
packages rather than another.
- --
The Wanderer
Secrecy is the beginning of tyranny.
A government exists to serve its citizens, not to control them.
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