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Re: pulseaudio related problems....

On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 03:09:25PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> [...]
> However, the fact that multiple DDs, which I do consider all as computer
> experts, failed to have a working setup, can only lead to the conclusion
> that there's something wrong which has to be fixed, especially if it
> comes by default with Debian. If DDs can't go around the issues and just
> feel that it's not worth spending more time, imagine with someone that
> isn't a computer expert...

It might just be that DDs/"computer experts" just have more customized setups
that break in interesting ways when effort isn't spent porting the configuration
changes to a new system. What follows is "$new_thing sucks because $feature in
$old_thing that I customized half a decade ago and forgot about doesn't work. If
I, a DD/'computer expert' can't get it working, how could it ever be suitable
for a layman?"

(Speaking from my own personal experience here, with a 6-year-old Ubuntu
installation upgraded ~12 times with ~3 botched upgrades, and an even older

> I'm also convinced that it should be possible to have a working default
> pulse setup. Emitting sound on all available sound output by default,
> and making sure that the level isn't zero upon install, seems like a
> sensible thing to do.

Ubuntu appears to get it right. I haven't seen a fresh Ubuntu installation that
had broken sound for a very long time now.

Kind regards,
Loong Jin

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