On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 03:09:25PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: > [...] > However, the fact that multiple DDs, which I do consider all as computer > experts, failed to have a working setup, can only lead to the conclusion > that there's something wrong which has to be fixed, especially if it > comes by default with Debian. If DDs can't go around the issues and just > feel that it's not worth spending more time, imagine with someone that > isn't a computer expert... It might just be that DDs/"computer experts" just have more customized setups that break in interesting ways when effort isn't spent porting the configuration changes to a new system. What follows is "$new_thing sucks because $feature in $old_thing that I customized half a decade ago and forgot about doesn't work. If I, a DD/'computer expert' can't get it working, how could it ever be suitable for a layman?" (Speaking from my own personal experience here, with a 6-year-old Ubuntu installation upgraded ~12 times with ~3 botched upgrades, and an even older $HOME). > I'm also convinced that it should be possible to have a working default > pulse setup. Emitting sound on all available sound output by default, > and making sure that the level isn't zero upon install, seems like a > sensible thing to do. Ubuntu appears to get it right. I haven't seen a fresh Ubuntu installation that had broken sound for a very long time now. -- Kind regards, Loong Jin
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