Re: Default desktop for jessie Was: Re: Debian/Wheezy general rant ...
hi,
2013/6/6 Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org>:
> Bjoern Meier <bjoern.meier@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Freedom is not only that you have a choice, you have to know what your
>> decision and the consequences will be. Unmanageable? Really?
>
>> I done LFS a weeks ago, was that unmanageable? No. It's not. Yeah Debian
>> is not LFS, but I rember the install-process on potato. That wasn't
>> unmanageable, too.
>
> Don't you think it's a little inconsistent to have no trouble with the
> install process from potato but be complaining about having to use
> Advanced Settings to change your desktop environment?
>
> The Advanced Settings menu is way easier to use than the potato installer!
sorry, but: facepalm
I have a hard time to take people serious, who just don't want to take
an argument on the way they were meant.
Of course the potato installer was the way of the doomed, but not
unmanageable. Nether is this advanced Settings menu
but: is it obvious? No! Has it a good usability? No! It is easy to
change? IMHO. yes!
That was the reasons why we don't have this potato-installer now (okay
not that easy to change).
Ok, an example. my Girlfriend was really pissed of Win8. She hate it
(for good reasons). She came to me and asked:"Can you show me Linux
and how it works?". I sweat blood, but I took my honor.
After a successful install she said:"That's not Linux. The button on
the left has no K."
First of all she was surprised, that she had the choice to choose her
working environment. After that, she was reading about XCFE, KDE,
Gnome3 (she doesn't want gnome3 or KDE4, because it was not easy to
understand how thinks work).
So yes, she had me beside. If she has done this alone, she would have
debian thrown away and had a very-hard-to-change-opinion about linux
(because she could not be aware that the desktop is a part).
The simple method of "Tell me what you want" could give a "Hu? I have
a choice? wait a moment ...". Above this, if she choose Gnome3 and
find out, it's not hers, she won't be rant Debian for this...
Greetings,
Björn
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