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Re: solving the network-manager-in-gnome problem



On Lu, 30 iul 12, 11:12:43, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> On 2012-07-29 21:43:57 +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > An ENABLE switch does more than just disabling the run-at-boot state of
> > an initscript. While I can buy the argument that some packages should
> > not start *at boot* by default,
> 
> The problem is not just at boot, but also when pacakges are installed
> (first install or upgrade).
> 
> > I do believe that whenever an initscript is called with the argument
> > "start", it should bloody well start, and not exit after doing
> > nothing because I haven't edited some scarcely related file
> > somewhere.
> 
> As long as scripts are allowed to execute init scripts directly with
> "start" or "restart" (see rsync postinst script, for instance), this
> must not be the case. Otherwise there would be no means to disable a
> daemon (uninstalling the package would not be a satisfactory solution
> because the client may still be useful, such as with rsync).

I'd say there is a need for:

1. a system-wide setting to start daemons or not on boot/upgrades/etc.
2. a blacklist - daemons listed here should not start no matter what
3. a whitelist - daemons listed here should start no matter what

This should satisfy all camps ;)

Kind regards,
Andrei
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