Re: upstart: please update to latest upstream version
]] "Bernhard R. Link"
> My point is that every init system will have a constant stream of
> problems. There simply is no way anyone will ever write a system that
> always work. Currently we have a system where every user has a chance to
> debug and fix those problems and make their system work again. systemd
> is something where mostly only a systemd developer will be able to fix
> stuff (It's easy to add some echo to a init.d script, debugging C code
> is not that easy). Thus anyone with problems mostly has a choice of
> reinstalling, giving up or switching to something else.
Your shell is most likely implemented in C, but it's not like you sit
down and have to debug it every other day. Why do you assume that you
need to do so just because policy is encoded in .ini-like files instead
of shell scripts?
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> I've no problem with Debian supporting multiple init systems. But if
> someone claims maintaince costs are too high for that, that is in my
> eyes a reason against supporting systemd, not for only having it.
Systemd is already in Debian, works for quite some people does not
impose any maintenance burden on people who don't use it. I really
don't see why you keep advocating removing it.
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Tollef Fog Heen
UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are
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