Re: Josselin Mouette and Planet Debian

[Romain Beauxis <toots@rastageeks.org>]

(I answer since there is a question adressed..)

Le Thursday 18 December 2008 22:01:17 Russell Coker, vous avez écrit :
> On Friday 19 December 2008 06:28, Romain Beauxis <toots@rastageeks.org> 
wrote:
> > The initial proposition of this thread was this idea of code of conduct..
> >  I don't like it either. If you believe someone is being too rude, why
> > don't you simply tell it to him, in public or in private ?
>
> http://np237.livejournal.com/20741.html
>
> That method was attempted, the response from Josselin was "I will go on
> shocking these people", along with several references to sodomy with a
> broomstick and a link to a French web page which (according to Google
> translation) has some detail about a sex act concerning a broomstick.  See
> the above URL for details.
>
> Obviously simply telling him doesn't work.

Well, the mention of this specific message was not in your initial mail. At 
least it gives ground to your claim.

Honnestly, you don't share the irony pointed in the text. However, there was 
nothing personal in it. Furthermore, the perception of the tone and level of 
speech depends on the various culture. 

Being french too, I can assure you that pretending that someone has a 
broomstick in its ass is a very common expression for someone who it too much 
rigid. It is commonly used, and doesn't really shock, as far as I know. 
Probably it is the same with "kill him" or throwing away one's shoes (!) in 
other cultures..

> The Ubuntu community includes many former and current members of the Debian
> community.  It seems that they don't have a problem with the code of
> conduct.   Why do you think that a code of conduct which works well for
> Ubuntu would fail for Debian?

Because we don't have the same culture. We don't work the same way, we do not 
have the same population and etc...


Romain