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Re: Installation of Recommends by default on October 1st



On Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 09:45:35AM +0200, Reinhard Tartler wrote:
> Pierre Habouzit <madcoder@debian.org> writes:
> 
> > apt-cache show openoffice.org-writer |grep Recom
> > Recommends: openoffice.org-filter-binfilter, gij | java-gcj-compat | j2re1.4 | java2-runtime, openoffice.org-java-common (>> 2.2.0-4)
> >
> >   And really, I think this recommends like is perfectly correct, as many
> > features in OOo are enabled if you have java installed.
> 
> [...]
> 
> > If I don't want to install java and the hundreds of megabytes it come
> > with, how am I supposed to do ?
> 
> This question was rised (and answered) before:
> 
> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.devel.general/117707
> 
> Please reread the complete thread quoted above before answering this
> post.

  This is not a solution, this is way more than impractical:

The following NEW packages will be installed:
  apache apache-common apache2-utils aptitude-doc-en aspell aspell-en
  avahi-daemon bsh-gcj cowdancer debconf-utils discover1 discover1-data
  docbook-dsssl docbook-utils docbook-xsl-doc-html dvipdfmx
  esound-clients fam fop gcc-multilib gimp-print gimp-svg gksu
  gnome-mount gutenprint-locales imagemagick jackd jadetex kamera
  kdemultimedia-kio-plugins kdiff3 ledit libadns1-bin libakode2
  libarts1-akode libasm-java libatk1.0-data libavahi-core5
  libavalon-framework-java libbatik-java libboost-regex1.34.0
  libbsf-java libcommons-io-java libcommons-logging-java
  libcompress-raw-zlib-perl libcompress-zlib-perl libdaemon0
  libdiscover1 libeel2-2.18 libeel2-data libenchant1c2a libfont-afm-perl
  libgail-common libgail18 libgcj-bc libgcj7-1 libgcj7-1-awt libgcj7-jar
  libgksu2-0 libglib2.0-data libgnome-menu2 libgnomevfs2-extra
  libgtop2-7 libgtop2-common libgutenprint2 libgutenprintui2-1
  libhtml-format-perl libio-compress-base-perl libio-compress-zlib-perl
  libipc-signal-perl libjaxp1.3-java-gcj libkcddb1 libmagick++9c2a
  libmime-types-perl libmudflap0 libmudflap0-4.2-dev
  libnautilus-extension1 libnss-mdns libosp5 libostyle1c2 libplot2c2
  libproc-waitstat-perl libpstoedit0c2a libsexy2 libsgmls-perl
  libtag1c2a libwmf-bin libwnck-common libwnck18 libxalan2-java-gcj
  libxerces2-java-gcj libxmlgraphics-commons-java lmodern mdetect menu
  mime-construct ncompress notification-daemon openjade p7zip-full
  perl-doc perl-suid perl-tk perlmagick preview-latex-style prosper
  psfontmgr pstoedit qjackctl sgmlspl source-highlight stgit tetex-bin
  tetex-extra texlive texlive-bibtex-extra texlive-font-utils
  texlive-fonts-extra texlive-generic-extra texlive-generic-recommended
  texlive-lang-croatian texlive-lang-cyrillic texlive-lang-czechslovak
  texlive-lang-danish texlive-lang-dutch texlive-lang-finnish
  texlive-lang-french texlive-lang-german texlive-lang-greek
  texlive-lang-hungarian texlive-lang-italian texlive-lang-latin
  texlive-lang-mongolian texlive-lang-norwegian texlive-lang-other
  texlive-lang-polish texlive-lang-portuguese texlive-lang-spanish
  texlive-lang-swedish texlive-lang-vietnamese texlive-latex-extra
  texlive-math-extra texlive-pictures texlive-pstricks
  texlive-publishers texpower texpower-manual tipa tla-doc videolan-doc
  wbritish x-ttcidfont-conf xresprobe xserver-xorg-video-all
  xserver-xorg-video-apm xserver-xorg-video-ark xserver-xorg-video-ati
  xserver-xorg-video-chips xserver-xorg-video-cirrus
  xserver-xorg-video-cyrix xserver-xorg-video-dummy
  xserver-xorg-video-fbdev xserver-xorg-video-glint
  xserver-xorg-video-i128 xserver-xorg-video-mga
  xserver-xorg-video-neomagic xserver-xorg-video-nv
  xserver-xorg-video-rendition xserver-xorg-video-s3
  xserver-xorg-video-s3virge xserver-xorg-video-savage
  xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion xserver-xorg-video-sis
  xserver-xorg-video-sisusb xserver-xorg-video-tdfx
  xserver-xorg-video-tga xserver-xorg-video-trident
  xserver-xorg-video-tseng xserver-xorg-video-v4l
  xserver-xorg-video-vesa xserver-xorg-video-vga xserver-xorg-video-via
  xserver-xorg-video-vmware xserver-xorg-video-voodoo zip zoo
0 upgraded, 186 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 324MB of archives.
After unpacking 721MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]?

  *WTF* ? I mean why should I have every possible xserver video driver
(I only need one), apache (and WTF does it recommends apache-doc ?!). Oh
and the whole texlive mess is also a nice touch.

  No, I just won't blacklist 186 packages in my /etc/apt/preferences,
this is just SOOOO wrong !



  PS: I'm very fond of the apache (to be removed) Recommends. really.
      especially on a notebook, it helps understanding how broken the
      recommends chain is right now.

-- 
·O·  Pierre Habouzit
··O                                                madcoder@debian.org
OOO                                                http://www.madism.org

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