Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?
On Sat, Aug 26, 2006 at 04:02:04PM +0200, Hendrik Sattler wrote:
> Am Samstag 26 August 2006 15:15 schrieb Theodore Tso:
> > No support for: (The * are critical)
> >
> > * SATA Hard Drives (*)
> > * Intel AD1981 HD Audio (*)
>
> This stuff did not even exist when Sarge was released. Half of
> userland would not fit this hardware, so who cares.
Umm, the people owning this laptop who choose Ubuntu instead of Debian
care.
> - installer did not read in the CDs for package lists and the GUI does not
> even support this (or for any other means of modifying /etc/apt/sources.list)
>From the menubar. System --> Administration --> Synaptic Package Manager
Wait for the package manager to come up, click on Settings --> Respositories
There is an "Add CDROM" button, and you just click on it.
(No need to run vi, or emacs, or need to understand the
/etc/apt/sources.list format.) Seems pretty user-friendly to me.
> - /etc/resolv.conf was not present but DHCP client complained about that
Hmm, I didn't notice this problem. When the dhcp client started
during the install process, it created the /etc/resolv.conf file for
me, and subsequent dhcp clients updated the /etc/resolv.conf file
information automatically from the DHCP serve.
> - the "root has no password and you must use sudo" sucks for many things as
> the access to root is not consistent (some invocation type can use su
> programs but those cannot work).
That's a philosophical dispute, but it's easily fixed simply by
setting a root password if you really want to use a root shell. (Or
by just doing sudo bash, of course.) I happen to like having a root
user with a password and to su to root, so I set up my system that
way. However, I view that as an emacs vs. vi sort of religious
dispute.
> - X ran with the wrong resolution (typical i915 problem) and with the wrong
> dpi setting
Can't speak to that; my ATI Firegl video worked automatically out of
the box --- with 3D accelerated graphics automatically.
> - /etc/network/interfaces listed non-existant devices and because of WPA, a
> manual setup of this file is needed
I didn't notice that problem.
> - something useful like ifplugd was not installed and the user was
> puzzled by the fact that plugging in the network cable did not
> result in network access
I agree that it would be nice if ifplugd or laptop-net were installed
by default, but last I checked Debian didn't install either by
default, either. So what's your point?
- Ted
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