Re: removal of svenl from the project
On 16 Mar 2006, Sven Luther told this:
> On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 06:33:00PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> On 15 Mar 2006, Sven Luther told this:
>>> You did never intent to do so, since you clearly said numerous
>>> time that you where frustrated with the kernel team taking over
>>> your work on kernel-package, and that you put self-compiled
>>> kernels at a higher priority than the official debian kernels.
>>
>> This is a lie. I merely would not let the official kernel
>> image use case obliterate the ome user use case, and I refuse to
>> create diverging code bases for these use cases. A solution that
>> panders entirely to one4 use case would not be acceptable, no.
>
> Notice thought that you left the kernel team many month almost alone
> to handle this, and then came suddenly back to impose your dictat in
> a strong way, which resulted in a clash.
Perhaps you, or others, would be interested in my perception
of these events.
Herbert Xu and I had a working relationship. Whenever we made
changes to the way keel images were packaged, we pro-actively
informed the other, either through the BTS, or private email. I mean,
the tool used to package kernel images, and official image packaging
should be tightly coupled, no?
When Herbert left the project it was a busy time for me in
real life (end of a long contract was coming up, and deadlines were
everywhere). So, I was only peripherally paying attention to the
formation of a team to replace Hebert. I assumed that someone would
get back to me if there were any changes, or the design of the
packaging was to change.
In hindsight, that was an incorrect assumption. No one got
back to me, either via email, or the BTS. By the time I got around to
looking at things, there was a whole scaffolding of things around
kernel-package, and things were being done in a manner inconsistent
with how make-kpkg has behaved since its inception.
When I tried to open a dialogue, I was told that kernel
package was crap, it was broken shit, and I was lucky that people
had not yanked it out of the dependencies of the official packaging.
Not a very conducive atmosphere for dialogue. I also came away with
the feeling that the design decisions were made catering solely to
the official images, which is fine, but that was not the only use
case I had to cater to.
Given the fiery atmosphere, I retreated, and now only
occasionally interact with the kernel team -- after donning asbestos
underwear. I am ever open to discussing design changes to address new
and changing use cases for my software.
Now, I am aware that my take on this may be as biased as
yours -- so I invite the peanut gallery to go look at the mailing
list archives.
manoj
--
Think sideways! Ed De Bono
Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@debian.org> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/>
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