Re: -= PROPOSAL =- Release sarge with amd64
Russ Allbery <rra@stanford.edu> writes:
> Goswin von Brederlow <brederlo@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de> writes:
>> Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net> writes:
>
>>> course, it would be DFSG-compliant, but I guess that's not something
>>> you're too concerned about, eh?
>
>> It wouldn't. It would limit the useage which is not allowed.
>
>> And I couldn't care les about DFSG-compliance for those scripts. They
>> have nothing to do with the DFSG as they are.
>
> So, I'm just a random user of Debian and not directly involved in any of
> this, but since no one has made this point directly that I've seen....
>
> I'm sitting here mystified as to why you would even *want* to try to run a
> service for Debian on software that isn't DFSG-compliant, let alone say
> that it has nothing to do with the DFSG. Doesn't that really miss the
> entire point? The purpose of Debian is to build a Linux distribution
> based on free software, and the build system is pretty integral to the
> process of building Debian.
To see what is going on with the buildds.
Compare that to debian using google to search its webpages.
> Sure, if you release your scripts as free software, someone else can use
> them to do something you didn't want or anticipate. Um... welcome to free
> software. That is, to a large degree, the whole bloody *point*. The DFSG
> exist because of the belief that we'll all be better off if we share
> software freely and openly even to the extent of letting other people fork
> our software packages.
>
> I can understand if you don't agree with this philosophy; certainly, not
> everyone does. But if you don't, why would you want to be involved at all
> with a Linux distribution that's built around that philosophy as part of
> its core foundation? Isn't that just a recipe for lots of personal
> frustration and head-butting?
>
> Please don't read any intended implications into my questions. I'm not
> assuming some conclusion; I'm honestly baffled by your statement.
Because for those scripts and just those scripts it is not the right
philosophy the way they are now.
If you realy are intrested I can give you the script to draw the
graphs from local files. You can download a script to lookup packages
status from the url posted earlier in the flame. The part that
regulary downloads the arch-all.txt files you can do yourself. That is
probably all you want as non buildd person.
MfG
Goswin
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