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Re: -= PROPOSAL =- Release sarge with amd64



On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 10:46:10PM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 02:27:38PM +0200, Ingo Juergensmann wrote:
> > People are mostly more interested in contributing and learning if you
> > guide them during real work. Sure, they must show some serious interest in
> > that task. A simple "here i am, what can i do?" is not enough.
> > But with regards to your bicycle example: a child will not learn riding
> > bike, when you just tell it: "look, there's a bike, there's a somewhere
> > some howtos.. .have fun!" Instead you'll need to guide it while it sits on
> > the bike, you'll need to catch it, if it might fall, etc.
> It takes time to teach someone how to ride a bike.  If it's your own child,
> you'll probably want to spend time doing it.  How many random strangers have
> you taught to ride a bike?
> Furthermore, note how incredibly difficult it is to teach someone how to
> ride a bike whilst simultaneously riding yourself.  You have to stop riding,
> hop off, and go help the other person.

Yes. You show your child how it looks like when you ride the bike, then you
stop riding yourself, explain it to your child, help it to find its balance
and compliment your child for doing well. And then you are riding side by
side with your child... 

> Now, ask yourself this -- would you rather have ftp-masters, listmasters,
> project secretary, and a million other things in Debian riding their bikes
> to the benefit of the project, or spending all their time herding newbies
> who are just as likely to decide it's not their cup of tea after all and
> wander off and do something else as stay and help?

How do you think that all those m68k buildd admins learned their lessons,
f.e.? Think of "herding newbies" as investing your time, so you can benefit
from it later. 

-- 
Ciao...              // 
      Ingo         \X/



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