On Mon, Oct 29, 2001 at 10:55:00AM +0100, Guillaume Morin wrote: > Dans un message du 29 Oct à 1:15, Branden Robinson écrivait : > > That is not the proper way to recognize an NMU. > > Have you NMU'ed the proper way wrt section 7.3 of developer's reference ? > According to Eray, you have not. According to Debian freeze practice, NMU'ing to fix unbuildable packages is acceptable without advance notice. However, Eray had warning since he left a "does not build from source" bug open against his package for over 3 months, and one NMU had already been done (in March of 2001) by Colin Watson, which fixed build problems even then. Some fun facts: * On July 14th, 2001, a serious bug was filed against sather, pointing out that it did not build on ia64. Eray never sent any mail to this bug, expressing an intent to fix it, asking for help, or communicating anything else. * On October 10th, 2001, a grave bug was filed against sather, pointing out that it was uninstallable on all architectures. Eray did not react to this bug, either. * On October 18th, 2001, John Daily expressed his intent to NMU the package and fix the above release-critical bugs. * The same day, Eray replied, claimed he was working on the problem, and expressed his intent to put the package up for adoption "some time in the future". * So, Eray is fast on the trigger (under 2 hours) to tell people not to upload NMU's of a package, but much less quick (over 3 months) to resolve release-critical bugs in the same package. If you don't believe these facts, read <http://bugs.debian.org/sather> and the linked bug reports for yourself. Eray exhibits extremely poor package management practices. This is tolerable if he is willing to accept the fact that this will lead to NMU's if his package has Policy problems (like, say, being unbuildable or uninstallable, both problems that have persisted for months at a time with sather while it has been in his stewardship). However, Eray expresses territoriality out of all proportion to the quality of work he has put into the package, and furthermore, he is not a Debian Developer. In my opinion the extreme carelessness he has demonstrated with sather should not be accepted from a Debian Developer, let alone a person who (one would think) is trying to demonstrate how he would make a good Debian Developer. -- G. Branden Robinson | When I die I want to go peacefully Debian GNU/Linux | in my sleep like my ol' Grand branden@debian.org | Dad...not screaming in terror like http://people.debian.org/~branden/ | his passengers.
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