* Ethan Benson | i can find nothing in redhat of any use to us. Aside from the fact that this is, imnsho a very arrogant attitude, RH have developed some tools which we are using. logrotate comes to mind. Also, I believe they were (and still are) central in the development of PAM. Are those tools of no use to us? -- Tollef Fog Heen You Can't Win