On Fri, Jan 07, 2000 at 12:03:55PM +0100, Filip Van Raemdonck wrote: > > > It's 3.1's fault, just buggy NURBS code. > > > Now Quake is free software (GPL'd in fact) and I will be greatly upset if > > people can't even install it just because one feature you use in Mesa > > happens to be broken in the current release. > > Well, I am using the matrox/nvidia/ati/... glx driver. They've switched > to mesa3.1 when it was even in beta stage a few months ago, and I've > decided then not to update anymore because I play xracer quite often - > and it got broken with mesa3.1 because of assumed misuse of display > lists - so I kept with a build from middle of september. > Now since xracer is in a rewrite, and with mesa3.1 coming out of beta, I > decided to switch over to a new build. This had a few nasty side effects > on the glx quakeworld (both self built from source and the older > binaries): > - gl_ztrick broke (known issue) gl_ztrick was a dirty hack. I'm not surprised it was broken. It has PROBABLY been fixed in Mesa 3.2 by now. I'll try to backport the fix if it is truly necessary. I think it's probably wiser just to default gl_ztrick to 0 and if it works for you turn it on for about 1-3fps better performance. > - console transparency broke I noticed that.. I think WE broke that, but I'm looking in to it. > - gl_flashblend broke > - quake just got slower (dropped from 29.2 fps consistently to 25.3, > also consistently). > > So I wouldn't really say that just one feature broke in Mesa 3.1 - > unless off course these problems are all caused by the glx driver and > not mesa ;-) I was unaware of gl_flashblend being broken, I will attempt to figure out what exactly that does and does not do. QuakeForge dropped dramatically in FPS when I upgraded to 2.2.14, I have no idea why. Please realize what's in the archive is 0.0.9 (0.1.0-pre actually but dpkg can't handle such things) If you're getting any of those problems with the version in CVS (some of them I know you're getting like gl_ztrick and console transparency) I will try to resolve them and possibly backport the necessary features from newer Mesa or even from the older Mesa as is appropriate... (CVS is good, love your CVS--until it does something insanely stupid that is... Then curse the hell out of it and start editing CVS/* to fix its brain damage...) > ps. I'm on a riva tnt, so the framerate is driver limited - that's why I > keep getting exactly the same fps each time I'm running timedemo. Yeah. I can't exactly say the Riva drivers work all that hot. In fact I can say that Riva is not on my wishlist for a new video card. I do want a G400 MAX or a Voodoo5 (when they ship) though! ;> -- Joseph Carter <email@example.com> Debian Linux developer http://tank.debian.net GnuPG key pub 1024D/DCF9DAB3 sub 2048g/3F9C2A43 http://www.debian.org 20F6 2261 F185 7A3E 79FC 44F9 8FF7 D7A3 DCF9 DAB3 <dpg> americans are wierd.... <xtifr> californians even weirder <Knghtbrd> xtifr has a point ...
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