On Thu, Jun 03, 1999 at 05:30:14PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: > > I do not relay. My ISP runs NT on its mail server. I want my mail > > delivered and unmangled. I would be greatly offended if my email > > started getting rejected simply because I don't have a relay set up > > (especially given that I'm running a Linux workstation here and don't > > NEED a relay to get my mail safely to where it belongs.) > > if your ISP provides a lousy service then vote with your feet. I use this provider because I can afford them. $14.95 a month is what I pay and I get unlimited connection time (no hidden anything---I can literally pull off a week long connection, telco switching permitting (it's not of course, I get connections as long as 30 hours or as short as 7 minutes..) If you can find a similar arrangement with any other ISP with a local access number that has a stable mail server, talk to me! Otherwise, go away. Unless of course you're offering to pay whatever another provider would charge me for the same service---it's not a pretty sight. > > A demonstration that filtering mail based on IP is a Bad Plan. The > > spammers have adapted to it. So you want to filter more IPs. > > wrong. it's not a bad plan because it works. Yes, it does a nice job of filtering every single message I send! EXCELLENT work. > a minor inconvenience to a handful of people like you and branden (both > of you have enough of a clue to route around any inconvenience) does not > even begin to compare with the major network damage caused by spammers. "minor"... It would result in me being unable to send mail, period. This is NOT MINOR. > dialup IP addresses are abused by spammers in many ways. the most > obvious is the whack-a-mole spammer, who churns through numerous > throw-away dialup accounts. they also abuse dialup systems by hunting > for and taking advantage of clueless types running wingate or other > badly configured lan gateway products. My dialup account isn't throwaway. Your solution is the same as shooting all Arabs because Saddam Hussein is an Arab himself. > > Not a chance in the abyss I will route my mail through my ISP. Not > > even a chance. > > that's your choice. i fully support your right to that choice. > > i also support MY choice, and that of many other people, to reject smtp > connections coming from dialup IP addresses. When you make that choice for yourself, that's fine---I don't care. When you make that choice for other people, I do care. -- Joseph Carter <knghtbrd@debian.org> Debian GNU/Linux developer PGP: E8D68481E3A8BB77 8EE22996C9445FBE The Source Comes First! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- <kira> Ada, the only language written to milspec. <Mikster> <shudder>
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