Bug#727708: multiple init systems - formal resolution proposal - Don't like software, don't use it. Absolutely.
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 6:38 PM, Sergey B Kirpichev
<skirpichev@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 05:30:04PM +0100, Matthias Klumpp wrote:
>> GNOME upstream won't really change
>
> Why? There are non-Linux GNOME users, for example. If the GNOME
> developers don't care even about such popular distribution as Debian -
> something is going wrong. And not with the Debian, for sure.
This has already been answered. GNOME advised all distributors 2 years
ago. Nothing much happened. Meanwhile, we went ahead and relied more
on systemd without really depending on systemd. You could implement
the interfaces of the various bits without depending really on
systemd.
If after (seems it is going to be) 2.5 years you come back and say
"we'll, we decided on this" while meanwhile we continued communicating
our decisions and plans (we plan at least 6 months ahead), then, I
find phrasings like "don't care even about such popular distributions
as Debian" offensive. This as we provided ample opportunity to know
our plans, to discuss, etc.
Anyway, it seems you don't know what systemd provides and from your
various responses it is pretty clear you cannot be bothered to
investigate. "It works fine for me" is such an easy answer. Coming
late to this bugreport and asking questions that have already been
asked and answered many times before, yet feeling entitled to be able
to talk about what others did: good luck with that, but as already
mentioned to other people: I can provide the various emails that we
reached out and did our best. I can also show you that all the
questions you're asking have been asked and answered before. Maybe
investigate a little bit before forming your opinion!
Lastly, we have added *loads* and *loads* of new dependencies over the
many years GNOME has existed.
Regards,
Olav
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