Re: Location list proposal [was: why must Debian call Taiwan a "Province of China"?]

[Christian Perrier <bubulle@debian.org>]

Quoting Jiun-jie Huang (jjhuang@cm.nctu.edu.tw):


> Sorry, could I clarify what you mean? I'm afraid that I miss your
> point.  Do you mean that after a user choose language, some countries
> would be displayed according to the chosen language? And if one choose

This is already what happens.

When you choose a give language in languagechooser and this choice has
no clear country choice (e.g. English (other countries))....you first
get a choice with all countries for which a valid locale exists, based
on the chosen language.

This is what we call "short list".

For Chinese, there are currently 3 "countries" with a valid zh_XX
locale : CN, TW and HK.

So, if you choose "Simplified Chinese (other countries)" you get a
list with all these 3 countries.....plus an "Other" choice.

Same, indeed, if you choose "Traditional Chinese (other countries)".

However, if you choose "Simplified Chinese (China)", you are NOT
prompted for a country as you have already chosen China.

Same if you choose "Traditional Chinese (Taiwan)"......you are
immediately set with language=zh_TW and country=TW.....get it?


All these entries such as "Traditional Chinese (Taiwan)" WILL BE
TRANSLATED....and of course, the Traditional Chinese translator will
put "Taiwan" in his translation.

> Traditional Chinese, Taiwan and Hong Kong will be displayed, while
> users choose Simplified Chinese won't see Taiwan as an option. Is that
> right? 

No. Users choosing Simplified will indeed see Taiwan as on option as
the short list is based in the left part of the locale.

This is not perfet...but the way both languages ar distinguished is
the main problem. Strictly speaking zh_CN is "Chinese as spoken in
China" while zh_TW is "Chinese as spoken in Taiwan"....IN that case,
this is more "as written" by the way ?

All this is really tricky, but the fact is that the common choices
will lead to what people expect....without seeing the offending name
for your country.

I hope I made it clear....This is *really* difficult to do..:-)