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Re: X on Mac

On 5/27/07, Finn Thain <fthain@telegraphics.com.au> wrote:

On Sat, 26 May 2007, Joel Ewy wrote:

> Hmm.  As I recall, there is another layout (or was in XFree86 4.x) for
> the Mac called something like "macintosh_old".  I believe this was for
> the older, small ADB keyboards that didn't have Function keys.  It
> sounds like you're using a full-sized keyboard, but it might tell us
> something if you try out the other layout.

I think macintosh_old is for old kernels (or newer kernels that have been
configured to send ADB keycodes -- but I've never seen one, since powerpc
and m68k switched to linux keycodes years ago).

actually, no, we just switched. that is why when upgrading to 2.6 from 2.2
i had to run "loadkeys us" before which  i got garbage characters at
the console.
it was exactly the situation where described in your reference. so we
are switching now, because we (mac 68k) skipped 2.4 kernels, right ?

but your reference is helpful. I think somehow something is still confused.
I too saw the reference that macintosh_old [1] means prior to extendedII kb
that had no function keys. that was the kb with the adb cord you plugged
in on one side of the kb and the mouse on the other, that had a color apple
on the top.

the reference Finn gives could be updated and corrected for 68k mac and
put in our port pages. if we get it straight.

i tried loadkeys today with mac-usb-us, which is in
usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwerty  (just type loadkeys mac-usb-us). it
to be the same as just "us" though. anyway my hunch is that
the problem is in console keymap not in X. I will keep investigating.

i think i might try building my kernel with the adb turned on. I think
mainstreaming support is not right. the pc keyboards do not fit. if
you want to see this with graphics try the xkeycap program. but that
obviously has not been
updated for macs since like 1998. ughh.

some people were surprised that powerbooks as late as g4 titantium had
adb keyboards. the things you learn in linux...

whoops, looks you guys beat me to it. both finn's 20 and christians 21 have


so according to finn's reference i should try booting with kernel option


at least until i get a new kernel with adbkeycodes unset...
(can't try it now just yet, ASAP though)

More here http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/keycodes


[1] it was actually std or standard. found in xkeycaps and also in
/usr/share/keymaps/macintosh. note also that parts of mac-us
keymap there are missing which seems to be an aborted attempt
to give macs a matched keyboard not a warped pc map that has missing
and extra keys. but I think that the map to use is mac-usb-[country_code].


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