Re: [Debconf-team] Fixing the Debconf Delagation
On 27/09/15 at 23:33 -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> Joerg Jaspert dijo [Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 09:23:48AM +0200]:
> > On 14073 March 1977, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> >
> > > With the current models, ideally, the Chairs would:
> > [...]
> > > - not be too involved in the organization of the current DebConf(s),
> > > so that there's no conflict between opinions expressed a mere organizer,
> > > and opinions expressed as a chair
> > [...]
> >
> > This definition point alone would directly take out Cate as a chair,
> > possibly Tassia and leave only Tincho, from what I saw from their
> > involvement in actual DebConf organization. Not sure that thats the best
> > thing.
> >
> > Depending on how one defines "too involved in the organization", but
> > having chairs for the DebConf that are mostly just bystanders doesn't
> > sound like the best idea for me.
>
> Yes, I also understood this to be precisely the opposite. During my
> time as a Chair, my *main* Debian task was to be as close as possible
> to DebConf organization, to be able to answer (or to point to right
> answers) to questions about DebConf, be they originated in outsiders,
> in Debian people, or in the orga-team(s?) themselves. We always tried
> to have at least two chairs attend every meeting (true, we sometimes
> failed to, but at least we tried hard to), usually chairing the
> meetings.
>
> So, yes, as an ex-Chair, this is the only point in Lucas' mail that
> made a big dissonance with me.
Oh, sorry, I think I wasn't clear. Indeed I should have defined 'too
involved'. Obviously Chairs should be following very closely DebConf
organization, doing exactly what you describe, like staying a close as
possible to DebConf orga, attending most meetings, etc.
But at the same time, they shouldn't become team leads, or be in a
position to make important decisions (as a DebConf organizer but not as
a Chair). And while keeping up with information about DebConf
organization, they should also probably refrain from commenting on each
and every issue, when not asked to by the DebConf organizers.
Giving enough space to the orga team so that they can make their own
decisions, and their own edition of DebConf, while knowing when one
should react and voice concerns/opinions, is of course a
very difficult balance to find. That's what makes the role the most
difficult...
Lucas
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