Re: larry

[steef <steefvanduin@zonnet.nl>]

Macskasi Csaba wrote:

> On Sunday 27 February 2005 09.54, Mr Mike wrote:
>  
>
> > and debian too..  With the new adaptation of the anaconda installer from
> > RH, a very big roadblock to using debian has been removed.  Now it needs to
> > provide a more unified gui administration toolset like mandrake then there
> > should be no reason why anyone couldn't/wouldn't want to give it a serious
> > look..
> >    
>
> Well, I don`t know if it is as positive that the new installer has been 
> adapted as you say. The first time I booted the sarge-cd I was shocked. It 
> was just like windows. It was not userfriendly, it was n00bfriendly. (Even a 
> goose could install sarge if you put enough grain on the enter key...) The 
> expert option was a lot better, but I still want the nice, transparent 
> installer from potato/woody back. My solution was to manually install the 
> system with debootstrap...
> I think, if debian gets too `userfriednly` it will end like windows. There are 
> several other distributions gui-installers and config tools. (yast, mcc...) 
> The `advanced` users want a simple, transparent system like debian. E.g. it 
> seems much more userfriendly to me to edit a textfile than to click around 
> half an hour on the gui-s... And if a user has learned all the basics on an 
> outher distribution, if he is ready to face the CLI, than he should try 
> debian. All the others should play around with gui-s. (imho)
>
> Regards,
> Csaba
>
>  
i agree.  like i wrote before on this list, i think an os like debian 
kills itself by imitating the mumbo-jumbo of gui's etc of a lot of other 
distroos, not only windows but p.e. an os like mandrake included. if you 
start a new thing i consider it quite normal to start a learning curve. 
therefore were the how-to's etc. developped.

yet it is not easy on a maillist to filter out the lazy folks. even in 
the case of 'larry' it was not exactly clear to me: so i would have 
decided to give even 'him'  the benefit of the doubt.

I agree too with csaba on the point that I too want back the simple 
transparant install system of adam on woody and, of course potato. the 
new installer has too much of a completely automated engine. personally 
i like a lot more the console which gives the user a lot more control 
and is for that reason a lot more user-friendly. so i guess if we do 
nothing we can sit down and wait till debian, the way we know it up till 
now, fades out.


kind regards,

groeten,

autarkisch en autonoom,

steef