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Re: Improvements of the website



On Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 12:33:43PM +0200, Bastian Venthur wrote:
> 	* I don't believe we should favor XML(-ish stuff) above simplified
> markup when the target audience are humans. XML is good for many things
> but definitely not for being edited by the casual user. BTW there are

XML is at least well structured.

> wiki engines which support both: simplified wiki syntax and raw HTML.
> Please think of the translators: If I see an English page with an
> outdated, wrong or nonresistant German translation it would be a matter
> of minutes correcting this in a wiki. But in the current system the all
> the technical obstacles crush on me so I forget it and just move on
> without translating anything.

I obtain in this case the current source from a revision control system
which works mostly very easily. I failed for Eclipse because of the Java
stuff I don't know and the really many CVS modules, and also for MySQL
IIRC.

But now the benefits are:
 * I have recent sources
 * I can get easily in contact with upstream
 * I try and play with this software and often watch the development for
   multiple years
 * I learn from these projects
 
> 	* Moving even more towards a programming style environment by
> suggesting gettext for translations, seems very inappropriate and would
> raise the barrier for non coders even more. Translating text shouldn't
> be so complicated, if it can be made as easy as editing a wiki or CMS.

But we want also to educate our users :-) It's my opinion that a person
which is not able to follow one or two simple steps (apt-get install
cvs; cvs -d... co .) should not translate any computer based stuff.

Probably the most important barrier is to find these information
describing the first steps ...
 
Jens



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