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Re: [nm-admin] Weakly Report



Hi. Thank you for your comments on this. I will update my test page
in accordance with your advices and the recent checklist which was
posted nm-admin by Dale.

In article <20000219124528.D22508@landru.math.uwaterloo.ca>,
  at Sat, 19 Feb 2000 12:45:28 -0500,
    on Re: [nm-admin] Weakly Report,
 "James A. Treacy" <treacy@debian.org> writes:

> Josip already addressed my main comment, which is to use
> devel/nmadmin/index.wml instead of devel/newmaint.wml
> for the main page.

O.K. I will modify the location of the files. I am going to change 
the name of this new directory to devel/join/, the name Darren gave it 
for this. I like this for understandability and memorability.

The name of this new subdirectory is OK for everyone ?

In article <20000219094454.G3381@benham.net>,
  at Sat, 19 Feb 2000 09:44:54 -0800,
    on Re: [nm-admin] Weakly Report,
 "Darren O. Benham" <gecko@debian.org> writes:

> No.. make the newmaint.wml into "index.wml" and put it all into a "join" or
> "joining" subdirectory.
> 
> There is going to be more information than one page is going to handle so we
> might as well create the subdirectory now...  Also, we should choose a name
> for the directory that would be intuitive to the majority of people, both in
> the project and not.

Thank you for the nice name :) I am going to use this name "join".

> If we need a seperate admin directory, also, that would be doable, too.

Thank you for proposal. I don't know if we require this yet, but if NMAM team
requires that, then I will work.

> Also, let's plan on the application page (the PHP) on NOT being in the tree.
> We'll be putting it into a seperate directory.. probably a seperate machine,
> even.

These pages may be created by "Oliver Elphick" <olly@lfix.co.uk>, so I rely
on him to answer this. All I do is just to put the links to his page.

> "Release Early, Release Often"   We don't have to put a link to it anywhere
> until we're ready...

Yes.

> > I wish to the links to them; Oliver's cgi (PHP) pages for "Status Board"
> > and "Application Submit Form" is essential for our web interfaces. And
> > Darren's "FAQ page" is useful for Applicants.
> That would be a given....

Thank you. I expect your FAQ page is useful a lot.

> >   1) Currently, the top page <http://www.debian.org/> shows the link to
> > "Contact Us" page at the left navbar. And at the bottom line of
> > that "Contact Us" page shows the link to "complete list of maintainer contacts",
> > which is devel/maintainer_contacts file.
> I thought we did away with that file.  It disconcerting me that it keeps cropping
> back up...

I have read the tread about intro/organization. We can solve this
in more general fashion (or already solved ?), I think. 

> Either way, I'd rather see EVERYBODY's name up there.  There is no reason to
> keep the Account Managers' names secret and Debian is about openness.

O.K. there will be link on updated "Glossary" section to this list.

> >   2) the "Developers' Corner" (devel/index) shows the link to
> > "Joining Debian" (devel/help) page at the left navbar.
> > 
> > I wish to change the text in that page (help.wml) to match the current 
> > status, and integrate the new maintainer related part of that page to 
> > the new "New Maintainers' Corner" we will add.
> > 
> Just take this page and incorporate the parts you want into the intro to the
> new maintainer's corner and when we're ready, we'll point the link in
> devel/index.html to that page.

Then I will work for this. Thank you for guidance.

In article <20000219140251.A11808@cibalia.gkvk.hr>,
  at Sat, 19 Feb 2000 14:02:52 +0100,
    on Re: [nm-admin] Weakly Report,
 Josip Rodin <joy@cibalia.gkvk.hr> writes:

> I'd better like if everything was under /devel/newmaint/ , and the entrance
> page could be index.wml, which would generate index.html, so people could
> go to http://www.debian.org/devel/newmaint/ and see it all. It's shorter.

I am going to use the Darren's idea, "devel/join/index". It is shorter and 
maybe more understandable, I think. Is this OK for you ?

> >       Developer Related Jobs: 
> >          New Maintainers -- <new-maintainer@debian.org> 
> >               member Martin Schulze <joey@debian.org> 
> >               member James Troup <james@nocrew.org> 
> > 
> > I think we should change the name here to Dale Scheetz, since he wrote
> > that he receives the mails sent to <new-maintainer@debian.org>. 
> 
> I agree. I'll change that now, along with some other updates (some of that
> info is incomplete and/or wrong).

Thank you for your work. I have updated my cvs tree, and read your change.

> That page should have been phased out in favor of some other, gecko talked
> about that, but it seems nothing happened yet.

I have read the tread about this. I agree to this idea in general.

> > I wish to change the text in that page (help.wml) to match the current 
> > status, and integrate the new maintainer related part of that page to 
> > the new "New Maintainers' Corner" we will add.
> 
> > 2nd paragraph may be better to be revised in order to emphasize the
> > importance of the debian-devel-announce list, since the list becomes now
> > "essential" list for Debian members.
> 
> It should be essential right now :) I'll change that.

Thank you.

> > And I would like to add the task other than packaging here,
> > such as documentation/web maintainance/translation(i18n/l10n)/
> > testing/debug(qa)/publicity/legal support, or so.
> 
> Right. A link to http://qa.debian.org/howto.html should suffice, right?

I wish to add some more, but I don't know the correct place/text yet.

> > 3rd paragrash is needed to be revised after we add the new
> > "New Maintainers' Corner" in order to refer that.
> 
> Of course.

Thanks.

I will post when I update my "Sample Implementation".
Please wait for a while. 

-- 
  Taketoshi Sano: <sano@debian.org>,<sano@debian.or.jp>,<kgh12351@nifty.ne.jp>


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