Quoting Timo Weingärtner (2021-03-27 11:51:40) > 26.03.21 20:42 Jonas Smedegaard: > > Quoting Calum McConnell (2021-03-26 20:14:50) > > > > Any individual (including Debian members) wishing to (co-)sign > > > > any of the open letters in question is invited to do this in > > > > person. > > > > > > "In person" is a bit unclear, given our times: can I sign it > > > online? How about just adding my name? [...] > > Replacing "invited to do this in person" with "strongly encouraged > > to do so" would in my opinion radically change the message from an > > unbiased "Debian does not recommend if you should personally support > > a petition or not" to a biased "Debian recommends that you > > personally support a petition". I would *not* second such changed > > proposal. > > I took "in a personal capacity" from Gunnar. Rule #9: Given a choice between Jonas and Gunnar, pick Gunnar :-) > > Replacing "in question" with "on this subject" seems to me to not > > change to meaning of the message. I would second a proposed text > > with that change. > > That's better actually, because it is not restricted to statements > mentioned in the vote. > > Updated text: > ---8<---8<---8<--- > The Debian Project will not issue a public statement on whether Richard > Stallman should be removed from leadership positions or not. > > Any individual (including Debian members) wishing to (co-)sign any of the open > letters on this subject is invited to do this in a personal capacity. > ---8<---8<---8<--- Seconded! > An alternative would be removing the last sentence all together, how > do you think about that? Such change might be (mis)read as bias against (not only organisational, but also) personal engagement in petitions. I find it a feature of this text that it explicitly clarifies that Debian has no opinion on personal engagement in petitions. I.e. praphrased: "Debian says no to partitions, but (just in case of doubt) has no say on what members of Debian do individually". If instead you consider it that a flaw, and instead intended the message to be that Debian is more generally against those petitions, then I think it would be better to express that explicitly, e.g. by explicitly discouraging Debian members to sign those petitions even in a personal capacity. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private
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