Hi, On Donnerstag, 16. Oktober 2014, Adam D. Barratt wrote: > Speaking for no-one other than myself, I _am_ very unhappy that given > how long the discussion has been rumbling on for, and how much > opportunity there has been, that anyone thought that two weeks before > the freeze (which has had a fixed date for nearly a year now) was the > right time to raise this. Exactly. And for what exactly? Gnome right now is installable with systemd-shim + sysvinit, why can't this GR wait until after release when the dust has settled? This is a GR based on rumors, which is very sad. And even sadder, what the GR states: "we think this software is not we like it to be. And/but we force *you* to change it - whether *you* think it's sensible or not." That's childish, to say at best :( If you don't like upstreams choices, *you* should write patches. Not GRs telling other people to do so. cheers, Holger, thinking about how a sensible GR to counter this one could be written
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