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Wading through the noise (was: The Sourceless software in the kernel source GR)



On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 18:39:34 +1200, Nick Phillips <nwp@nz.lemon-computing.com> said:

> Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> I suppose we could have a lengthy email exchange, and assume that the
>> sponsors are still paying attention to every mail in the deluge that
>> is -vote;

> On which subject, does anyone else think that it would be useful to
> leave debian-vote for formal proposals/seconds (possibly moderated),

(I don't think it should be moderated.  If you're afraid of abuse, it
should be possible to enforce that all posts should be GPG signed with a
key in the keyring.)

> and another list e.g. debian-vote-discuss (or even just -project) for
> the flame^Wdiscussions that follow?

Alternatively, we could recommend that people follow some standard in
the subject header.  e.g.

- Proposals should begin with "Proposal:" (with no "Re:"), and should
  begin a new thread when it makes sense (see below).
- Seconds should begin with "Second:" (or "[sec]")
- (if a proposal is withdrawn, the subject should begin with
  "Withdrawn:")

Flames/discussions will end up with a subject beginning with a "Re:"
automatically.

It may still be a bit hard to keep up with everything in the middle of
large threads, but it should be an improvement over the current
situation without having to create a new list.

> It would make it a lot easier to tell what was an actual proposal and
> what was not, what had been seconded and what had not (each proposal
> gets its own thread, to which the only responses are seconds).

I'm not sure that each proposal should get its own thread.  IMHO, a
proposal that is presented as an amendment to a previous proposal should
be under the same thread as the previous proposal.  But it should be a
direct reply to the proposal that it amends, and not buried deep within
the thread.

> I don't know about anybody else, but I have been trying to follow the
> various threads on -vote recently, and have been having trouble
> keeping up with the various proposals and counterproposals that have
> been flying around deep down in some rather large threads.

Agreed.

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