Re: First Call for votes: General resolution for the handling of the non-free section

[Sven Luther <sven.luther@wanadoo.fr>]

On Mon, Mar 08, 2004 at 02:48:58PM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote:
> * Sven Luther (sven.luther@wanadoo.fr) [040308 14:40]:
> > On Mon, Mar 08, 2004 at 01:48:24PM +0100, Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
> > > * Andreas Barth <aba@not.so.argh.org> [2004-03-08 11:32]:
> > > > * Gerfried Fuchs (alfie@ist.org) [040308 11:25]:
> > > >>  Which option is: "Keep it as long as it has been moved to nonfree.org
> > > >> (with infrastructure) and remove it then."? I guess many are missing
> > > >> this, and I just hope this wasn't forgotten.
> > > > 
> > > > The GR is not about the next little step, but about the fundamental
> > > > decision whether we want to keep non-free, or remove it soon.
> > > 
> > >  But that next step influences if I am for or against. If it isn't sure
> > > that the next step (moving it to nonfree.org instead of erasing it from
> > > earths surface completely) will be made I am fully *against* the GR. And
> > > I guess I am not the only one. This is a needed precondition for some of
> > > us, I am quite confident that I am not the only one.
> 
> > Just vote for keeping non-free then. Once non-free.org has been created,
> > and has been proved to be a working replacement of non-free in the
> > debian archive, meeting all the needs of the non-free maintainers and
> > users, i don't see how our promise to keep non-free will stop us from
> > moving to this new infrastructure.
> 
> No. If you are not satisfied with either text, you can vote for
> "further discussion". But if the "keep non-free" is the result of this
> vote, than _please_ don't discuss any more after that. It is decided
> than, and let's get back to our work after this GR.
> 
> We have more important tasks than to have the same discussion again
> and again.

Well, if we are going to distribute non-free in a nice way from a
non-free.org based apt source instead of the current solution, i believe
that this could be achieved seamlessly without need for long discussion
and a vote. I guess everyone would vote for it if it did come to a vote,
but this is the kind of technical decisions which don't need vote, since
we are still providing non-free support to our users that need it, in a
way that will also satisfy those that want to blind themselves to the
reality.

Friendly,

Sven Luther