On Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 11:32:19AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Great, I'm glad to hear that what I said is only common sense. *snort* What you've said is a meaningless tautology, evidently of the sort which everyone agrees to without thinking, and then has an amiguity reinterpreted for someone's advantage, for example, using it as a now unquestionable basis to argue say, that since "this channel is "official" enough to be a representative part of Debian", then "when a contributor get kicked from #debian-devel" he's "being rejected by the developer community". > Now if > you can convince the operator in question to respect that common sense, > i may have no problem stopping here with the GR. If you're worried about what Branden does or thinks, talk to him about it. Or argue with him and prove him wrong with irrefutable logic and cold hard facts, or rant at him and mock him till he cries like a widdle babee, or *whatever*. I'd hardly be first in line claiming Branden's the easiest person in the world to discuss something with, but proposing a pointless GR ain't the way to go about getting things done. And it's *definitely* not right to just forget about trying to get some sort of agreement amongst the developers concerned, and try to force the issue with a vote. You can think what you want, but just because you think it doesn't mean anyone else does too, or should. And you *certainly* shouldn't try to force them to think that by proposing a GR. A good start might be actually talking about whatever it is that bothers you, like where -private topics can be discussed other than -private, or what other ways there are of keeping #dd usable, with less annoyance to newcomers. Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns <aj@humbug.org.au> <http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/> I don't speak for anyone save myself. GPG signed mail preferred. "Security here. Yes, maam. Yes. Groucho glasses. Yes, we're on it. C'mon, guys. Somebody gave an aardvark a nose-cut: somebody who can't deal with deconstructionist humor. Code Blue." -- Mike Hoye, see http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/armadillos.txt
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