Re: [PROPOSED] Michael Bramer must stop spamming or be expelled
On Thu, Oct 04, 2001 at 12:44:23PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Oct 2001, Sven wrote:
>
> > I received a german translation of on of my packages description, and after
> > having read it, i communicated with the translator and together we found a
> > better translation. Also i did change the english description following to
> > this discution, as i noticed some things could be improved there also.
>
> > So, at least something usefull as come of those mails, altough i agree with
> > others that wouldn't know what to do with a japanese or rusian translation.
>
> > Also, for those who complain, procmail is your friend, ...
>
> Please, let no one suggest further that procmail is a solution here. This is
> tantamount to admitting that these messages *are* equivalent to Spam -- that
A sure, but some consider even replying to both the list and the sender of a
mail as spam, while procmail could easily erase the unwanted message if
needed, and complain loudly about it, occasionally starting huge threads here
and there.
Also, i am sure that if those messages that are complained about are filtered
in their own mail folder, they would be much less of a hassle, and we would
get less complaints, exept naturally for those using slow lines, and even
then, these messages are not that huge. A more informative mail subject would
help also though.
This information is nice to have, but could be send in a more compacted form,
maybe in a weekly or so digest.
More advanced filtering (based on the language the maintainer speak or so)
would be even better, but is more difficult to put in place, i think.
> I was among those who argued initially that the maintainer needs to be kept in
> the loop, and should therefore receive the translations. But clearly, there
> are maintainers who don't share this view, and they are (rightfully) upset
Most of them english speaker, aren't they ?
> that they have to repeatedly ask, for every new package they upload, to be
> excluded from the notifications. For the sake of the DDTS itself, a technical
> solution should be found that lets developers opt out if they feel they have
> nothing to contribute to the translation process, and that lets everyone get
> back to work. Infighting among developers takes the focus away from both free
> software and our users, and telling dozens of developers[1] to shove off and
> use procmail if they don't like the state of things is just the sort of
> reaction that would encourage infighting.
Ok, i agree with you on that, i just wanted to give a positive feedback on
those mail everyone hated so much ...
Friendly,
Sven Luther
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