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AW: AW: AW: AW: Here Newbie---Amateur in Linux...Problem: Debian LXDE cannot boot.. Is it destroyed?//Second try Hotmail bug Sorry




Good afternoon.
Thank You

We dont use WIFI.

Desktops

We do
connect with cable to the WWW.
Also mouse and keyboard is with cable.

Regards
Sophie



Von: Andrew M.A. Cater <amacater@einval.com>
Gesendet: Montag, 25. April 2022 18:26
An: debian-user@lists.debian.org <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Betreff: Re: AW: AW: AW: Here Newbie---Amateur in Linux...Problem: Debian LXDE cannot boot.. Is it destroyed?//Second try Hotmail bug Sorry
 
On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 07:18:48PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> On Mon 25 Apr 2022 at 17:24:29 +0000, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 06:15:40PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> > > On Mon 25 Apr 2022 at 16:59:57 +0000, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello Sophie,
> > > > > 
> > > > >
> > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Good afternoon.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank You.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We do backup every evening.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What version of Debian from Debian URL is the best do download and burn on
> > > > > > CD?
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > We still don't know what the actual computer you use is :(
> > > >
> > > > Unless it is a (very old) 32 bit only machine, I would recommend
> > > >
> > > > https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/11.3.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-cd/firmware-11.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso
> > > >
> > > > This is unofficial only because it contains non-free firmware. The firmware
> > > > may be necessary for your machine to boot and work well: it will almost
> > > > certainly be required if you are installing over a WiFi connection.
> > >
> > > I am aware that this ISO has non-free packages for a wireless
> > > connection and that any needed will be used and installed by
> > > d-i. However, what about micorode packages, firmware-intel-sound,
> > > bluez-firmwarem and dahdi-firmware? At which stage(s) of an
> > > installation does d-i become aware of them?
> > >
> >
> > Some of these are recognised at inital boot: if unsure, they can be
> > added. For myself, I normally install the metapackages firmware-linux-nonfree
> > and firmware-misc-nonfree which solve the problem. As the discussion elsewhere
> > on Debian mailing lists is showing, it is really very difficult indeed to
> > do without all firmware.
>
> The need for a non-free WiFi firmware is recognised and the user is
> given the choice to install it or not. I have never come across d-i
> offering to install other non-free packages, which is what one would
> expect. Are you sure they are even considered?
>

I'm fairly sure that microcode may get installed. As I say, I get round
the problem by installing the two metapackages which pull in everything
needed.

> The "discussion elsewhere" seems to be specifically about firmware
> and looks to be going somewhere. About time!
>
>

As someone who also works with the images team: I have the highest regard
for the opinions of Steve McIntyre and Andy Simpkins with whom I work
whenever we do release testing.

All the best, as ever,

Andy Cater


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