Re: AW: AW: AW: Here Newbie---Amateur in Linux...Problem: Debian LXDE cannot boot.. Is it destroyed?//Second try Hotmail bug Sorry
On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 07:18:48PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> On Mon 25 Apr 2022 at 17:24:29 +0000, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 06:15:40PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> > > On Mon 25 Apr 2022 at 16:59:57 +0000, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello Sophie,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Good afternoon.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank You.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We do backup every evening.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What version of Debian from Debian URL is the best do download and burn on
> > > > > > CD?
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > We still don't know what the actual computer you use is :(
> > > >
> > > > Unless it is a (very old) 32 bit only machine, I would recommend
> > > >
> > > > https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/11.3.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-cd/firmware-11.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso
> > > >
> > > > This is unofficial only because it contains non-free firmware. The firmware
> > > > may be necessary for your machine to boot and work well: it will almost
> > > > certainly be required if you are installing over a WiFi connection.
> > >
> > > I am aware that this ISO has non-free packages for a wireless
> > > connection and that any needed will be used and installed by
> > > d-i. However, what about micorode packages, firmware-intel-sound,
> > > bluez-firmwarem and dahdi-firmware? At which stage(s) of an
> > > installation does d-i become aware of them?
> > >
> >
> > Some of these are recognised at inital boot: if unsure, they can be
> > added. For myself, I normally install the metapackages firmware-linux-nonfree
> > and firmware-misc-nonfree which solve the problem. As the discussion elsewhere
> > on Debian mailing lists is showing, it is really very difficult indeed to
> > do without all firmware.
>
> The need for a non-free WiFi firmware is recognised and the user is
> given the choice to install it or not. I have never come across d-i
> offering to install other non-free packages, which is what one would
> expect. Are you sure they are even considered?
>
I'm fairly sure that microcode may get installed. As I say, I get round
the problem by installing the two metapackages which pull in everything
needed.
> The "discussion elsewhere" seems to be specifically about firmware
> and looks to be going somewhere. About time!
>
>
As someone who also works with the images team: I have the highest regard
for the opinions of Steve McIntyre and Andy Simpkins with whom I work
whenever we do release testing.
All the best, as ever,
Andy Cater
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