Re: Why is debian Live (11.2.0) advancing the time on my windows laptop +5 hours? ...
On 3/27/22, Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> wrote:
> Well, you are. Just not in the normal way.
On 3/27/22, tomas@tuxteam.de <tomas@tuxteam.de> wrote:
> Debian Live /is/ a dual boot -- unless the computer in question
> has no operating system to begin with :-)
>
> I think there is some misunderstanding on how songbird and you
> think of "dual boot".
To me "dual booting" had always meant: repartitioning drives; an
actual Linux installation; messing with Windows fschk; with the GRUB
loader; choosing which OS do I want to use during start up; ...
What I have been doing is occasionally using a DL DVD and an external
USB player to temporarily use pretty much any bootable device with a
USB port. I have successfully booted even very old "for parts" mac
airbooks without a hard drive in that way just fine, which has truly
amazed me.
> As I already said, I think a live system shouldn't /set/ the
> hwclock
... the hardware and/or firmware of the host system at all. Period!
To me that is the whole purpose of using live systems, no?: "let me
just borrow the RAM and the CPU, its buses and IO connectors ... for a
while". I find honorable that kind of "do no harm" Hippocratic
oath/paradigm, which includes as part of a corollary: "don't you ever
think, talk or walk like a politician".
> AFAIK there is one mailing list dedicated to debian live. Perhaps
> you're luckier there.
I will try "to talk sense into them", but since the DL is the same as
the install system there might be some sort of "implementation issues"
blocking the possibility of an easy solution to that problem.
I think at the very least DL should include a utility to reset the
system time in whichever way user wants or actually ask the user if
she is OK with having DL alter the system clock "because" "Windows
developers are hopelessly idiotic morons who haven't figured out yet
if the sun rises from the East or from the West" ...
lbrtchx
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