Re: stability level of testing
Greetings Andrew,
> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2021 at 10:05 PM
> From: "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: stability level of testing
>
> On Thu, Dec 02, 2021 at 09:26:43AM +0100, daggs wrote:
> > Greetings Christian,
> >
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2021 at 11:51 PM
> > > From: "Christian Britz" <cbritz@t-online.de>
> > > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> > > Subject: Re: stability level of testing
> > >
> > > Hello daggs,
> > >
> > > daggs wrote:
> > > > there will be 2 main facing the Internet connection, server's upgrade and the router vm.
> > > > the rest is internal
> > >
> > > Routing other computers to the internet, firewalling and so on? I
> > > personally would not do this with the testing distribution, remember, it
> > > has no timely security support.
> > >
> > > Current Debian stable 11 ("Bullseye") has not so old software and good
> > > security support, consider using it for a server. You can search for
> > > software versions using packages.debian.org
> > >
> > > Good luck,
> > > Christian
> > >
> > >
> >
> > the main pkgs I need are qemu, kernel and libvirt. my router is inside a vm.
> > in stable, kernel is 5.10, although 5.15 is latest stable, I can live with 5.10
> > however, qemu is 5.2 and libvirt is 7.0.0, these are major downgrades for me, I cannot use them.
>
> They're usable and stable: you can use them, but choose not to, maybe.
>
qemu 5.2 didn't supported my setup properly.
libvirt 7.0.0 I didn't tried.
I've encountered behavior change between libvirt versions.
> >
> > I was using debian stable before, I've ended up removing it because I had a bug and the fix was in newer incompatible versions.
>
> Did you try asking on the lists about the bug / fixes - maybe ask the
> maintainers?
the lists aren't always cooperative for long.
infact, the reason I've left debian was because libvirt was upgraded from 6.5.0 to 6.8.0, that introduced an bug which caused my vm to stop booting.
when contacted the libvirt list, I was told it was fixed in 7.0.0.
>
> > also the one time I've upgraded the system, it broke my vms.
> >
>
> Broke how? A Debian stable system update shouldn't "just break" VMs.
> Or did you "upgrade" from stable -> testing or stable -> unstable?
> That's not necessarily an "upgrade" in terms of expected stability/lack of
> package churn.
no, I've upgraded from 9.0 to 10.0, that rendered all of my vms dead.
I wasn't able to find the reasons.
as my router is one of these vms, I needed to find alternative router until I've fixed it.
after trying, I've replaced debian with another ditro.
for me having the router vm broken means my system and network are broken because I cannot use any of them.
Thanks,
Dagg
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