Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye
On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 09:12:24AM +0100, Tixy wrote:
> On Wed, 2021-08-18 at 09:03 +0200, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 10:01:32PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > > On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 09:48:10PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday 17 August 2021 18:48:34 Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> > > > > [an abridged version of the release notes]
> > >
> > > > Thank you Andy, thats more of the recipe I need to follow.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers, Gene Heskett
> > >
> > > See, *this* is exactly what I tried to avoid -- giving someone an
> > > inferior version of the release notes, empowering their laziness,
> > [...]
> >
>
> Greg *was* trying to help Gene (and us) by getting him to read
> documentation from the Debian project, rather than picking one of
> several different 'easy' suggestions from this list.
>
> If you read the release notes you get a clue what to expect and what to
> do. Or you can not bother and just rely on the helpful people on this
> list.
>
> I know from my upgrade to Buster I had to take action due to AppArmor
> and nftables now being default and ending up migrating from legacy
> network names to new 'predictable' network names. Looking at the
> release notes again, there's also changes to increase security with
> sshd and OpenSSL, and with Systemd needing entropy at boot (Gene has
> some ARM boards the latter may hit).
>
> Want to take bets that Gene won't be back in a few days with problems
> caused by some of the above changes? He could save himself, and you,
> time and hassle if he read the release notes.
>
Yes, yes, and yes. Agreed that you should read the release notes.
I tried to put more of it into one email with pointers to where the info was
derived from so that it was in one place rather than five emails.
A convenience factor - not detracting from anybody else's suggestions.
Like all of us, Gene has his own ways of doing things, his own
habits and his own ability to do things. That's a necessarily "different
approach from the way I'd do it / different from my experience / abd I'm sure
I could do it better myself" situation.
That's OK - his systems, his problems to sort if stuff goes
wrong - and yes, we could get into a to and fro of a longer thread - but
if any one of the emails above sorts out how to do this with good will
and good humour - it's a net win for all concerned.
The list archives are searchable: Google will find stuff on keywords and
the next person to look will find some element of step by step instructions.
> --
> Tixy
>
All the best to all on the list, as ever,
Andy Cater
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