Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu
On Thu 10 Sep 2020 at 14:15:49 -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 07:34:24PM +0200, Marco Möller wrote:
> > I agree with Richard's criticism and would suggest to not present that
> > first line "Debian desktop environment" at all, because it is redundant
> > with the second line "... GNOME". If someone deselects the second line
> > because no wanting GNOME, but does not image what the first line might
> > contain, then he will be surprised that GNOME became anyway fully
> > installed after the first line was still selected, a behaviour which
> > makes no sense after the second line was explicitly not selected. It is
> > especially annoying if you did this selection "mistake" on slow or
> > expensive bandwidth. When I first time did this mistake, I thought, hey,
> > maybe for a desktop they will install already something like network
> > manager and other network managing tools or a tiny collection of
> > enhanced editors like vim instead of vi only, maybe some other cute
> > utilities. But I ended up with looong time downloading and installing a
> > full blown GNOME which I actually wanted to avoid and therefore did
> > unselect the second line initially.
>
> People are overthinking this. If you want more control, just skip the
> software selection screen altogether. If you're going to nit-pick over what
> gets installed when using it, you aren't the target audience.
I am unsure that really addresses Marco Möller's point. What he and
other users fail to appreciate is that "Debian desktop environment"
means "Debian default desktop environment". The issue is that what the
default is is not specified. It could, of course, be anything. Maybe
the user does not want this particular distribution's default. I do not
think this is nit-picking.
I do not agree with Marco Möller that the first line is redundant, but,
if it specified that the Debian desktop environment was Xfce, it is
possible it would give some clarity. OTOH, if it was decided not to have
a default desktop, the first line could go.
--
Brian.
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